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Before The Dawn - 7 deadly sins of Tuomas and Lars
As their song Faithless deals with the deadly sins, and another with Wrath (on their new Deadlight CD), Before The Dawnīs Tuomas Demon Saukkonen and Lars Eliminator Eikind got to be real experts who can provide a serious and highly sophisticated discussion on that topic. Or rather not? Well, anyway, here you can find out why basically six deadly sins would be enough for them, what Tuomas secretly lusts for and why it is dangerous to meet Lars in the supermarket...
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Lars: I donīt think that actually many people envy any of us, although... they do... I think that many people envy our success by doing something so simple that nobody would really envy us in doing it... and, ah... that sounded like shit...
Tuomas: I think some people envy us a little, because they donīt know the whole picture, they see us on stage, read interviews, saw us on TV or heard Deadsong on radio and they think that we have succeeded more than we actually have. They have this image that people are pouring money into our pockets, that we are driving Mercedes S-series or something, which isnīt true, and they donīt see the work we are doing, so they envy us for the wrong reason. There are some people who envy us, there is some unfriendly feedback in our guest book, towards me at least... and I envy a little bit all those lucky bastards who won in lottery or something, who donīt need to work a single day for the rest of their lives and who can just concentrate on doing what they want. Iīd be so glad to be able just making music and not to work...
Lars: My personal envy goes out to people who do exactly the same thing as I do but still make ten times more money than I make. Iīve been working as a musician for about 20 years, and I see people Iīve known since childhood, even one of my guitar students, now making MILLIONS, and I am still sitting here borrowing money from people...
Lars: I am actually a workaholic, I cannot sit down for a second, I wake up in the morning, and I have to do something, but what I do is - absolutely nothing! I check my e-mail, read something in the internet I donīt do shit. I never practise playing or singing, I just go to the studio or to the stage... so I think I am the world champion of sloth and how to get away with it!
Tuomas: I think I am the opposite of sloth, which actually became a bit of a problem. I would like to be a lazy person, if possible... but there are things I would like to achieve, so thereīs no time for sloth. I think I envy also lazy people, because they know how to relax, and I donīt. There are my goals, and I am determined to work on getting there. But as soon as Iīm a millionaire Iīll have this big sofa where I lie all day!
Lars: I donīt eat much in my life... yet again, the world championship of drinking comes to me... there is some mysteriously bad feedback from a couple of website forums that Iīm drinking too much when Iīm on stage. Yes, I drink quite a lot, because I like to have fun, but Iīm not an alcoholic or something. Seriously not.
Tuomas: I have to drink or I die, but itīs not alcohol. But I do love to eat a lot, and good food, I spend quite a lot of money on that...
Lars: I think in general I have a perverse lust for life, I mean, being on stage playing for thousands of people, sex, drinking my ass off - all the things that are fucking cool and normal people donīt get to do because they have to go to work. I have a lust and a craving for everything that is just totally over the edge cool, and hey, I DO IT!
Tuomas: Pretty much the same, but we both have a different way to direct our lust. Of course thereīs the sex part, but not towards each other... (giggling in the background) naturally.... (more giggling) although ... because of your drinking you pass out quite often - so it might be possible for me to express my lust... (laughter) But I can control myself... (more laughter)
I think I have the same lust for life, in general, I just want to live and do things I want to do, because I donīt think Iīm going to live forever, so...
Lars: I am not a very violent guy, I have been in some fights, but Iīm not a person who hates... I might get angry but two seconds later Iīm cool with everything. I donīt have any wrath or raging inside me. I take all my wrath out in things I like to do, so wrath and lust is basically the same thing for me, itīs just how you express it.
What makes me really pissed off (voice in the background: Running out of beer!) - besides running out of beer - is people being cruel to animals, that really ticks me off.
In every day life itīs also old people sneaking in front of you at the cash desk in the supermarket, just because they are old. That makes me just wanna kill people. (laughter in the background) Old people. I mean, they are going to die anyway, so who gives a fuck. (more laughter) But I am not sure if I can call that wrath, though. Iīm a happy camper. Hey, Iīm not a fighter, Iīm a lover.
Tuomas: So youīre a lover, with the craving of killing old people in supermarkets... (even more laughter) therefore the unhappy camper would kill all elderly people in a supermarket just when he comes in, so nobody can sneak in front of him...
Lars: We all have skeletons in our closets. (giggling)
Tuomas: We all get angry at some things at some point, I donīt think my anger is or was - anyhow bigger than Larsī in the supermarket... I was angry at the studio, the whole situation was a bit stressing, the drummer fucking up the tracks, I got very frustrated and tired and angry, I had to play drums myself, we lost five days in studio and we didnīt have so much time there anyway hence the song Wrath. But I donīt think I have any wrath in me, actually, but I do get angry from time to time. I have high goals, and when you try to achieve them, things go wrong sometimes. Doing a lot of things thereīs a very high chance that things go wrong, which makes me very frustrated. But being angry with myself is just wasted time, because there are lots of other people to be angry with IF I need to be angry.
Lars: I can never get enough of anything. As I said, I have this insane lust for life, I want everything... When I got this endorsement deal with Dean Guitars I just wanted this particular bass guitar, before I even knew how to manage to get any money, I just wanted it, thatīs kind of greed. Am I money-greedy? No. More in what I do, the job, the music. I want myself to be the coolest musician ever walking this planet. Which I am anyway... Iīm bullshitting here, I donīt have a good answer.
Tuomas: Iīm not a greedy person in a materialistic way, but I want things to happen. For example, I want to make 10 albums before Iīm 30. And that is somehow greedy, and Iīm doing a lot of extra work to make that happen, not just waiting for them to happen... but I am not sure if that has a lot to do with greed...
Lars: Itīs more lust, actually. I think lust and greed is kind of the same thing.
Tuomas: Yeah, but itīs still a bit different... I have lust for what I do, thatīs why I just want to make music... but thatīs not... Iīm not a greedy person.
Lars: Well, I donīt think of myself as a very vain person. If you had seen my closet and my clothes... I like to be comfortable, I donīt care if Iīm wearing stuff that looks like total shit, if my hair is sticking out in every fucking angle possible... the only vanity I have is Iīm hopelessly trying to be me, and very not succeeding. Because whenever I really try to be me Iīm actually rather trying to play this character of being me, because I donīt know who the fuck I am. And thatīs a kind of vanity, trying to be something I am not, sometimes.
Tuomas: You acknowledged the problem, so itīs easier to heal. (sniggering in the background)
Lars: I havenīt acknowledged the problem myself, but I have a girlfriend who told me: Put those clothes into the garbage, throw them away, and donīt use this, donīt do that.
Tuomas: There is a term for that, and it has nothing to do with vanity: to be henpecked (laughter in the background)
Lars: No no no, this is not about henpecked husband. (more laughter) I think I need to have a kind of fashion manager in my life.
Tuomas: The fabulous five ... (laughter)
Lars: My vanity is so below par, itīs hardly there. But... I LIKE COLOURS (laughter) When I bought my Yamaha bass guitar, I was like hey, itīs green and gold NICE. This is my kind of vanity, everybody has black instruments, but, hey, I have a green-and-gold bass guitar, Iīm so fucking cool.
Tuomas: Iīd say there isnīt any vanity in me
Lars: You have tattoos, thatīs kind of vanity, isnīt it?
Tuomas: I havenīt got tattoos for looking better or cool, there is some deeper meaning, I donīt think thatīs vanity, thatīs SELF-EXPRESSION! I love myself, in a healthy way, we all care about ourselves, we all have needs and want to ... please... ourselves...(giggling in the background)... which... sounds ... a bit crazy .... when I say it like that ...(laughter)
Sometimes I donīt like photos of myself when I shout very loud my mouth is wide open, you can throw a water melon in it without even hitting my teeth... I think I look a bit stupid, so thatīs not vanity, thatīs called reality. Or, Lars, do you think I look cool with my mouth wide open?
Lars: Ah... it doesnīt look SEXY. (laughter) But thatīs what you do, you shout loud, with an open mouth...
Tuomas: Sometimes I comment on pictures, but I think everybody does, when they think that they look stupid or something. Of course itīs always the artistic performance which is more important than how I look like... because otherwise I would do a lot of things differently...
Author: Klaudia Weber, photos: K. Weber
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